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TSMC’s debacle in the American desert
rest of world ^ | 23 April 2024 | Viola Zhou

Posted on 04/25/2024 9:28:07 PM PDT by anthropocene_x

Bruce the young American engineer had been eager for a stable, high-paying job in the semiconductor industry. Then, in late 2020, he received a LinkedIn message from a recruiter for Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company. The job sounded like he’d be “pushing the boundaries of human technology,” he recalled to Rest of World.

Over the next two years, Bruce came to realize the reality of working at TSMC wasn’t what he had envisioned. While working on nanometer-level processes to make state-of-the-art chips, he struggled with language barriers, long hours, and a strict hierarchy. Bruce soon began second-guessing what he had signed up for.

Other U.S. workers who spoke to Rest of World echoed Bruce’s concerns. The American engineers complained of rigid, counterproductive hierarchies at the company. Taiwanese TSMC veterans described their American counterparts as lacking the kind of dedication and obedience they believe to be the foundation of their company’s world-leading success.

TSMC’s work culture is notoriously rigorous, even by Taiwanese standards. Former executives, speakin about Taiwan’s competitiveness compared to the U.S., said that “if [a machine] breaks down at one in the morning, in the U.S. it will be fixed in the next morning. But in Taiwan, it will be fixed at 2 a.m.” And, he added, the wife of a Taiwanese engineer would “go back to sleep without saying another word.”

Managers sometimes applied what they called “stress tests” by announcing assignments due the same day or week, to make sure the Americans were able to meet tight deadlines and sacrifice personal time like Taiwanese workers. Managers shamed American workers in front of their peers, sometimes by suggesting they quit engineering.

One former American TSMC engineer said his manager instructed him to follow along with daily meetings, which were conducted in Mandarin, just by looking at the associated PowerPoints.

(Excerpt) Read more at restofworld.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: biden; chips; jobs
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Corporate America would love to normalize this kind of work norms here.

The birth rate in countries like Korea, Taiwan, China is recently dropping too low. Not enough taxpayers. Governments there are having a hard time understanding why, and giving some childcare subsidies to reverse it.

1 posted on 04/25/2024 9:28:07 PM PDT by anthropocene_x
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To: anthropocene_x

I wonder how many ChiCom moles work in these Taiwanese companies?


2 posted on 04/25/2024 9:34:11 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: anthropocene_x

Toyota couldn’t open a factory in America because the workers were not smart enough.


3 posted on 04/25/2024 9:36:24 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (America needs a Conservative DICTATOR if it hopes to survive. )
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Toyota couldn’t open a factory in America because the workers were not smart enough.

That's absolutely not true.

Companies willing to pay decent wages don't have any problem finding talent. Foreign companies in particular enjoy having talented staff who can adjust as needed.

4 posted on 04/25/2024 9:46:19 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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speakin about Taiwan’s competitiveness compared to the U.S., said that “if [a machine] breaks down at one in the morning, in the U.S. it will be fixed in the next morning. But in Taiwan, it will be fixed at 2 a.m.”

I work for an international tech company. If a machine breaks down at 1 AM, it might well be up again at 2 AM, but if U.S. standards to maintenance were used, it would not have broken down at all.
5 posted on 04/25/2024 9:47:25 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana
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To: anthropocene_x

>> he struggled with language barriers, long hours, and a strict hierarchy.

I have done extensive work at TSMC fabs in Taiwan.

They DO have a work ethic and a chain of command.

The article says that like it’s a bad thing.

But you know what? INSIDE Taiwan fabs where you KNOW they mostly speak Chinese, we NEVER EVER ran into a language barrier. Taiwanese English is overall excellent — and not just in the semiconductor industry.

So... I dunno... maybe just maybe wokie “Bruce” doesn’t communicate in English so well!


6 posted on 04/25/2024 9:47:57 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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I’m making it up? They had plans in Ohio, or some place near canada, but the cost to retool the machines so the illiterate uhmurrican could understand them was too much to be cost productive, so they moved to Canada.


7 posted on 04/25/2024 9:52:24 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (America needs a Conservative DICTATOR if it hopes to survive. )
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To: anthropocene_x

> rigid, counterproductive hierarchies at the company

Those “counterproductive” hierarchies haves stopped them from dominating the global market in semiconductor manufacturing.


8 posted on 04/25/2024 9:58:21 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Captainpaintball

I believe my Toyota was built in Kentucky.


9 posted on 04/25/2024 10:00:52 PM PDT by tinamina (Remember when Biden said “we have developed the most sophisticated voting fraud system ever”? )
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To: dfwgator

I used to work in employee benefits in Silicon Valley. I called on one company who had a whole floor of Chinese communist H1B visa workers and another floor of Taiwanese workers the HR Director said that she could not put them on the same floor because they won’t speak to each other and fight if did they do.


10 posted on 04/25/2024 10:06:09 PM PDT by tinamina (Remember when Biden said “we have developed the most sophisticated voting fraud system ever”? )
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To: anthropocene_x

One of my first jobs was working for Taiwanese. I wouldn’t ever do it again. They follow a very similar corporate and work structure to Japan

I understand why TSMC is successful, but this article gave me flashbacks.

Americans will sacrifice and will work hard to achieve a goal, but I doubt Taiwanese will be able to figure out how to do this.


11 posted on 04/25/2024 10:09:44 PM PDT by PGR88
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I wonder how many ChiCom moles work in these Taiwanese companies?

Very few, if any I imagine. Taiwanese, while Chinese, are still distinct in their language, culture, upbringing etc... Taiwan is a small place, and they can spot a mainlander, a twinge in an accent, and outsider from a mile away. It sounds like the culture in TSMC is also quite strict, uniform and hierarchical, like that of a military unit, making it even harder for a mainland spy get in, or succeed within it.

They aren't infected with American "political correctness" or stupid genuflecting to "diversity." I highly doubt they are hiring any mainlanders for assignment in Taiwan or USA. If anyone were to spy for chicoms, it would more likely be an individual Taiwanese who would be a traitor

Just a guess from my experiences with both

12 posted on 04/25/2024 10:26:36 PM PDT by PGR88
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… illiterate uhmurrican could understand them …

The only Americans that are illiterate are those who spent 12 years locked up in the public indoctrination system.

13 posted on 04/25/2024 10:48:35 PM PDT by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trumpp. A)
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To: Captainpaintball; T.B. Yoits

Probably the original Cambridge Toyota plant.

For whatever reason, despite Canada’s many deficiencies, Canada’s auto assembly plants are consistently at the top of the heap for North America.

https://media.lexus.ca/en/releases/2023/toyota-motor-manufacturing-canada-earns-yet-another-jd-power-plant-quality-award.html


14 posted on 04/25/2024 10:56:45 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Nervous Tick

“ The article says that like it’s a bad thing.”

Sums up the article.


15 posted on 04/25/2024 11:55:16 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: tinamina

I was going to sing about how the Toyota shines bright at your old Kentucky home, but there’s some reference to homosexual African-Americans in the piece, and I would rather remain in good standing with the FR admins.


16 posted on 04/26/2024 2:09:23 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: PGR88

In short, you can’t Shanghai a ChiCom into Peking on semiconductors, or there’ll be hell Taipei.


17 posted on 04/26/2024 2:12:30 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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“The only Americans that are illiterate are those who spent 12 years locked up in the public indoctrination system.”

Where they learn that reading and doing math at grade level is racist.


18 posted on 04/26/2024 2:26:35 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Captainpaintball
"Toyota couldn’t open a factory in America because the workers were not smart enough."

Then what was that Toyota plant I toured in Princeton, IN doing there? And isn't there another in Huntsville, AL making trucks?

19 posted on 04/26/2024 3:14:41 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Nervous Tick

“So... I dunno... maybe just maybe wokie “Bruce” doesn’t communicate in English so well!”

I was wondering similar myself. It’s likely his work ethic and ability to take orders is similar to many of today’s younger generations. And this guy is whining to some news outlet, like a lib attention whore, something his employers might discover. He’s a leftard.


20 posted on 04/26/2024 4:39:02 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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