Posted on 11/21/2008 7:18:53 PM PST by Chet 99
The wear and tear of the state’s U.S. Senate recount began to show Friday, as some counties reported missing ballots and a rising number of challenged ballots frayed nerves among counters and monitors alike.
As of Friday night, Republican Sen. Norm Coleman was hanging on to his whisker-thin lead over Democrat Al Franken. With 64 percent of the 2.9 million ballots recounted, Coleman was ahead by 120 votes, down from 136 at the end of Thursday and from the unofficial lead of 215 signed off on Tuesday by the state Canvassing Board.
The figures represent a compilation of recount data reported to the secretary of state and gathered by the Star Tribune.
(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...
COleman might as well just quit now. Save himself the heartache of it being stolen from under his nose and watching his ball less party do nothing.
I agree. Keep in mind they probably already stole 5000 votes prior to election day. Some thug somehwere is likely already in deep doo for coming up short. When it's all over Franken will be ahead by something like 550 votes.
The Republicans had elections stolen when they controlled Congress, and still did nothing. Now they are powerless to do anything with the Democrats in control (Congress is the ultimate judge of the elections).
Really pitiful that Minnesotans allow an election be stolen like this. Where is the public outcry?
why is the republican party standing by idly and not fighting for this man the race is so close.
“When it’s all over Franken will be ahead by something like 550 votes”
I predict over 1,000. The “missing” ballots will
“miraculously” show up minutes before final certification. That’s the script and they’re sticking to it.
“Really pitiful that Minnesotans allow an election be stolen like this. Where is the public outcry?”
They’re just peacefully, submissively accepting it as a fait accompli.
Concede, Coleman. The fix is in. You are not allowed to win.
I read the Democrat counties were counted this week. The Republican ones are supposedly next week. I don’t think Franken will catch up.
You got it! 1000 fresh "FrankenVotes" ready for action!
“I read the Democrat counties were counted this week. The Republican ones are supposedly next week. I don’t think Franken will catch up.”
It doesn’t matter. Coleman is giving up his biggest chunks of votes in “Republican” counties, while gaining 16 in Hennepin. He will not win because it’s not the arrangement this year. Minnesota GOPers need to fight this if it’s to be fought. Otherwise, accept it. Minnesota is a corrupt, liberal state that is no better than Illinois, and the “win” by Franken is in the bag. This “recount” drill is just a show... a charade.
It is such a sad and miserable day in America when this snivelling foul-mouthed retribute is allowed to even be on a ballot.
The 3 ringed circus that is to soon be our federal government is a testimony to the retarded unlearned masses. They vote based off what they are told rather than what they discern through their own analysis of the candidates.
Of course there is the legion of dead voters as well.
Minnesota runs a fair and decent election. If coleman loses, it is because he lost. it was a tough year for Rinos, and Coleman is as rino as they come.
If the republicans nominate a conservative next go around, then you’ll see a different result.
“It is such a sad and miserable day in America when this snivelling foul-mouthed retribute is allowed to even be on a ballot.”
A long, sad descent from the greatness of the Reagan era. I feel blessed, though, to have had the honor of living and serving in the military during that time.
“If the republicans nominate a conservative next go around, then you’ll see a different result.”
ROFL!! Not in “Mee-na-soo-tah.” They prove year in and year out the democrat brand is golden to them.
This is from the Minnesota Secretary of Stste site. The formatting ain’t quite what I’d like but it’s good enough to give an idea of what’s happening.
Statewide Recount Results for US Senate
Totals
Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Norm Coleman 752438
Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Al Franken 723818
Recounted Data Totals Percent
RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Coleman (as recounted) 751898 42.34
RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Franken (as recounted) 723378 40.74
RECOUNT Number of All Other Ballots (as recounted) 298906 16.83
RECOUNT COLEMAN and Other Ballots Challenged By FRANKEN 778 0.04
RECOUNT FRANKEN and Other Ballots Challenged By COLEMAN 747 0.04
Don't kid yourself, statistically whats happening should not happen... in a tight 50/50 vote the anomalous ballot should also split about 50/50 not 90% to the dem... when a polling place "finds" 100 misplace ballots and they all are Franken... that pure bs
My good friend who was in the Navy for four years lives just outside St.Paul in St.Cloud, MN. I can’t believe the news and asked him whats the deal and he said he does not know what is up.
If Al Franken is a US Senator becomes a reality I am moving to Canada. I live in Washington so it is not that far.
It is a sad day when Americans are so stupid they’d actually vote for a moron like Franken-—it shouldn’t even be close, but face it, half the country was duped. I just pray we can survive this without too much more damage. God help us!
don’t move — Franken is a contemptible jackal but that does not distinguish him from dozens of other US Senators.
In a body in which Robert Byrd, Ted Kennedy, Harry Reid, Chris Dodd, John Kerry, et al are considered the most distinguished leaders, the addition of Al Franken can hardly dilute the talent pool
"Soon to be?" You should watch more C-SPAN. Congress has been a 3-ring circus for years. Having Franken in there might be an improvement as far as entertainment value goes. Congress is useless anyway, it punts hot issues to administrative agencies or the Courts, and pretty much has its legislation written for it by the administrative agencies and the administration. Congressmen are to lawmaking what news-readers are to journalism ... nothing more than the faces that read the scripts put in front of them.
“”When it’s all over Franken will be ahead by something like 550 votes.””
Wow, I can’t believe the climate/malaise on the board tonight! While your prophecy may come true (I pray it won’t) - we all know Coleman won this election fair and square, originally. If Franken ends up as the winner, it will be an absolute Travesty.
I am ashamed of my party after this debacle. It seems he is left out on his own. Saxby down in Georgia is hanging on by a thread too and Obama is going to town for Jim Martin. And with McConnell saying he was looking forward to President Bush leaving office...
Why do I feel so alone? I mean I know you guys are here, but I really feel like we are just wagging in the wind.
LOL, it’s amazing how the rats can steal an election so brazenly (EVERY adjustment favors the rat) and the worthless FBI just sits around and plays with itself. America is dead and gone.
“”I don’t think Franken will catch up.””
I’ve seen a lot of word today saying the same, that Coleman is the winner, even though it’s by a really slim margin. But I think they also said Franken et al will demand ANOTHER recount.
its too bad the conservative "side" has such a "woe is me" mentality.......
some of you should be ashamed that you're such wuzzies....
Missing ballots? Nationwide that amounts to 4,000,000 less Republican voters this election cycle, than in 2004. Par for the course.
I heard someone on H&C on Fox tonight say that Minneapolis had not finished counting their votes yet. This is very bad news for Coleman. Minneapolis is pulling the same scam that the Mayor of Gary, Indiana did during the Dem. primaries. They are holding their votes until they find out how many they need for Franken.
Why do they always stand by and then cow tow? That’s why we are through with them
its too bad the conservative "side" has such a "woe is me" mentality.......
some of you should be ashamed that you're such wuzzies....
You are so right!
64% of the vote counted and the lead is 120 where it was 215 with area's more favorable to Coleman yet to count.
Even if it goes at the same rate Coleman would still be ahead by 80 or so votes.
I expect Coleman to win.
“”Coleman is as rino as they come.””
Again, it’s like the McCain thing. But have you listened to idiot Al Franken???
So many, many fellow conservatives (I’m one) talk about “next time” when/if the GOP learns their lesson (which I agree they very much needed to learn before 11/4).
Whenever I hear this argument, though, I shake my head in sorrow, because with BHO as POTUS and (God forbid) a bullet-proof Democrat congress and senate, there may not BE a “next time” or second chance.
I’m SO convinced that we GOP/conservatives needed to put country first and ideology/politics second when facing SUCH a dangerous threat to this country in BHO and the radical Far Left. There’s absolutely no satisfaction in saying the outcome of this election will “teach conservatives/Republicans a lesson”. The situation is far more serious than that, and the “lesson” could well be a fatal one for this once great nation.
Oh I agree that the government is already a laughing stock (tragically so). I guess I was just giving the executive branch the benefit of the doubt as not being one of the 3 rings...yet.
“”the addition of Al Franken can hardly dilute the talent pool””
It’s about SO much more than that - pray it won’t happen. It would be the 59th Senate seat, one away from the magic 60 filibuster-proof Democrat-controlled Senate.
What is the statistical likelihood that so many high-profile races can finish by such close margins? Bush/Gore, Coleman/Franken, Gregoire/Rossi, etc. Someone is finagling the votes.
The likelihood of close races in a lot of these cases is very good. Two of the three you mentioned, Gregoire/Rossi and Coleman/Franken are in heavy Democratic states where it is good that the Republican can compete.
Also Bush won in that contest and I believe Coleman is going to win this one.
As to the Gregoire/Rossi race, that was bogus they way Gregoire won.
But the answer to your question is that there is no violation of statistical principals/probablities with those three races.
Damn, there you go being logical with folks that thrive on doom and gloom.
But you are right.
The Republicans need to take this opportunity to cross reference with a fine tooth comb every single ballot to make sure that they are legal and from real people. If they did this the whole thing could be turned around.
I don’t understand the mindset of cheating to win.
Pete Rose cheated and he was banned from baseball, even the Hall of Fame.
Professional athletes who are proven to have taken performance enhancing drugs are disqualified and scorned.
There are very strict test cheating rules in college.
Yet politicians whose party machinery habitually cheats to win are rewarded with a place at the public trough and perpetual re-election.
Where and when do so many people learn that it’s perfectly acceptable, even admirable to cheat to win?
Except that the higher the population, the more tendency for that population to vote democratic. Additionally, the larger the precinct, the larger the chance for mistakes. The recount generally favors the democrat.
Look - Even Coleman is saying that he believes this recount is fair. if you are correct - then the Governors office, Tim Pawlenty’s office, is complicit in a cover up and is stealing the election for the democrats.
Too me, Minnesota is just a providence of the Soviet Union. It, and several other crawl on their knees and beg the government for free stuff, states.
Franken used to be on TV. That's all most Murcans need to know.
Nonsense. A conservative message articulated clearly will beat a liberal message every time.
"The ends justify the means." Success is measured by outcome, not by the path taken. That message is reinforced by most aspects of society; from education, to playground, to media messages, to business. Intellectual dishonesty is the tool of choice for politicians. "Nice guys finish last" isn't just a trite saying, it's the truth.
In a nutshell, the country has rejected moral compass.
Cherry, supporting RINOs is the reason the republican party just had its ass handed to it. You call me a wuss? Fine.
I don’t have an unblinking faith in all things republican. My faith is in family, Jesus Christ, and conservative principles. If a liberal runs as a republican, he/she won’t get my support.
So if that causes a democrat to take office - I know what I have really done is cleared the way for a true conservative - one who believes in free market, limited government, and christ as his lord and redeemer - to take the helm next election. Only when we as a party purge the liberals and moderates will we truly be a free country.
So - you are right - I can’t be counted on to support people that are opposed to my core principles. The fact that you can be says volumes about your lack of character.
I forgot to add, ScottinVA - go tell Michele Bachmann that a conservative message can’t win.
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