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The Truth About Bailouts
Euro Pacific Capital ^ | 11-21-08 | Peter schiff

Posted on 11/21/2008 6:50:50 PM PST by reprobate

November 21, 2008

The Truth About Bailouts

As the Federal bailout bonanza prepares to spread beyond the mortgage and financial sectors to fill Detroit's depleted coffers, few economic or policy analysts have spared a thought for the destitution of the U.S. government itself. Put simply, our government doesn't have enough spare cash to bailout a lemonade stand let alone a bloated and failing industry that is losing tens of billions of dollars per month. Washington can only offer funds that it has borrowed from abroad or printed. Unfortunately, the nation is in the grips of a delusion that money derived from these sources has the power to heal. But history has clearly shown that borrowed or printed money only has the power to destroy.

The argument that energizes the pro-Detroit camp is that the government should extend the same courtesy to the rank and file auto workers that it lavished upon the fat cats of Wall Street. While two wrongs certainly do not make a right, the fact remains that the Wall Street firms are still floundering despite the bailouts. What's worse, the money spent was either printed or borrowed from abroad. Both options are destructive to America.

When it comes to bailouts, the real discussions are not centered in Washington but rather in Beijing, Tokyo, and Riyadh. With no money of our own, our ability to bailout our own citizens is completely dependent on the world's willingness to foot the bill. While I am sure that Bush and Paulson are doing their best to convince the world that open ended financing of the United States is in the global interest, my guess is that, unlike Congress, our foreign creditors will see through the self-serving nature of our plea.

(Excerpt) Read more at europac.net ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automotive; bailouts; gm
This guy paints a very bleak picture for the US. I'm thinking about buying gold, productive farm-land and digging a bunker!
1 posted on 11/21/2008 6:50:51 PM PST by reprobate
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To: reprobate

im a hardcore conservative just for the record. its not all the auto industry fault. the gov mandates put on these auto companies have crippled this industry. auto industry is at fault but if all the facts are known its the gov. fault as usual!


2 posted on 11/21/2008 7:01:10 PM PST by remaxagnt
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To: remaxagnt

Do the Asian car companies have to comply with these government mandates you’re speaking of? If you’re talking about fuel efficiency mandates, it would seem to me that they would have to, wouldn’t they?


3 posted on 11/21/2008 7:08:08 PM PST by dr_who
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To: dr_who

They do (have to comply) but perhaps because they are not yet contrained by unionization/huge pensions they have had more capital to do r and d on CAFE than GM etc.??


4 posted on 11/21/2008 7:14:51 PM PST by madameguinot (The USA is still the greatest nation on Earth.)
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To: madameguinot

I was waiting for remaxagnt to say that :)


5 posted on 11/21/2008 7:21:03 PM PST by dr_who
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To: reprobate

Peter Schiff (at link) was on FNC many times and predicted this and they all said he was crazy.


6 posted on 11/21/2008 7:25:36 PM PST by sickoflibs (Tired of loss and humiliation?, Then what do we stand for?)
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To: reprobate
The dollar must fall, wages in America must be brought down to a competitive level, and hopefully government spending and burdensome regulation can be reduced. This transformation will not be fun

More fun than the alternative ...

7 posted on 11/21/2008 7:50:34 PM PST by solfour
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To: reprobate

The reality is, is that if foreign economies wish to continue to manufacture and export to the United States — where a great many consumers have a demand for foreign -made goods — then the foreign economies, through their ForEx banks, have little choice but to send capital our way...in essense, loaning us our dollars back through some type of purchase of U.S. assets. Recall, in Economics, Net Exports (NX) are equal to Net Capital Outflows (NCO) [so if NX is negative, as it is in a so-called trade deficit, NCO is negative, too.: that means it’s an inflow of capital]


8 posted on 11/21/2008 7:51:26 PM PST by LowCountryJoe (Do class-warfare and disdain of laissez-faire have their places in today's GOP?)
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To: reprobate
The other ugly truth: these will not be the last bailouts. Since the underlying causes are being utterly ignored (for political reasons), there will be another round next year... and the next... and the next...

Until the PROBLEMS are solved, the SYMPTOMS will continue!

(Of course, the problems are self-inflicted, and primarily arose from liberal ideology. Does this surprise anyone?)

9 posted on 11/21/2008 8:31:10 PM PST by Teacher317 (Well, at least we know Obama isn't the anti-Christ. Satan would have more class.)
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The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.

Alexis de Tocqueville


10 posted on 11/21/2008 9:32:41 PM PST by erkyl (The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in a period of moral crisis, stay neutral)
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To: reprobate

[This guy paints a very bleak picture for the US. I’m thinking about buying gold, productive farm-land and digging a bunker! ]

We have a short window of opportunity because we are in a deflationary period caused by the credit collapse (sucking out enoemous sums of cash). However, the next stage is when the printing presses catch up and we hyper inflate. Gotta be get ready to turn cash into physical assets before the hyperinflation takes hold.


11 posted on 11/21/2008 9:38:22 PM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: reprobate
It seems the powers that be intend to destroy the dollar. Globalism and the New World Order is much higher on their priority than being American.

It is a sad day for the world...

Perhaps this guy is right: Hal Turner (Google video)

Would appreciate your comments, this does puzzle me.

12 posted on 11/22/2008 12:41:05 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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Gotta be get ready to turn cash into physical assets before the hyperinflation takes hold.

That is the conclusion I have been coming to. Unfortunatly I have little to convert. What I have is skills. That may be my only saving grace.

13 posted on 11/22/2008 12:42:54 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
That video scares the poop out of me.

There have been mumblings and whispers about an Amerigo for a good while. There was a discussion about this within the last several years.

Interesting timing on this, too. Right before BO is inaugurated.

14 posted on 11/22/2008 5:35:14 AM PST by doberville
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To: reprobate

Any money sent to MI will be sucked into that socialist black hole known as Detroit, never to be seen again.

We are seeing welfare bums from across the nation moving to MI, while productive people are fleeing.


15 posted on 11/22/2008 6:10:17 AM PST by sergeantdave (We are now in the Age of the Idiot)
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17 posted on 12/02/2008 10:12:05 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: reprobate
This entire situation reminds me of somebody hocked to his eyeballs loaded down with mortgage, auto, and school debts and with 3 credit cards maxed to their $10,000 limits and now he has upped his credit limit on all 3 to $50,000 - so he can build a new pool, take an Island vacation, get a new Mercedes, buy even more stuff, and build a super Party Room addition on his McMansion.

Our politicians are crazy!

18 posted on 12/03/2008 7:10:04 AM PST by Gritty (Don't let a crisis to go to waste. It's opportunity to do things you couldn't do before-Rahm Emanuel)
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