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Bought a Colt AR-15 CAR-A3, HBAR Elite and need some help! (Vanity)
Freerepublic ^ | 11/20/08 | Self

Posted on 11/21/2008 6:56:58 PM PST by mmanager

Bought this gun today and am asking the experts what over the counter ammo feeds through this weapon? As stated, the gun is a flat-top with a Simmons scope along with a bi-pod as the only add-on's. The serial number is BK010XXX and I believe this a post-ban weapon, correct?

I have shot competively in the past with .45 auto's and this is my first semi-auto rifle. I believe this dude will drive tack's as I have read. I just would like some overall advise.


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Thanks to the One this is my second purchase in the last two weeks. Picked up a SIG GSR also. My wife would like to strangle him!!!!!!!(along with million others).

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1 posted on 11/21/2008 6:56:58 PM PST by mmanager
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To: mmanager

Send it to me and I’ll let you know.


2 posted on 11/21/2008 6:59:31 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Kirkwood

LOL!


3 posted on 11/21/2008 7:00:31 PM PST by TADSLOS (McCain Courted Socialism and Brought Us Marxism Instead)
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To: Kirkwood

How ‘bout I let you shoot it and you buy me a beer?


4 posted on 11/21/2008 7:02:59 PM PST by mmanager (It was amazing to watch a 900# Moose drag a 3,000# RINO.)
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To: mmanager

Heck if I know. The upper receiver could have been changed out and you have about a dozen choices of calibers.

What does the receiver say on the side of the mag well? Any paperwork with it?

Take it to where you were competing and ask them to show you how it works.


5 posted on 11/21/2008 7:03:16 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: mmanager

I don’t own any guns myself. Used to, but not any more.


6 posted on 11/21/2008 7:04:01 PM PST by OKSooner
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To: mmanager

The AR15 fires .223(Rem), AKA 5.56.

Why did you post a pic of the pistol when asking about an AR15? Confusing.


7 posted on 11/21/2008 7:04:30 PM PST by KoRn
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To: mmanager

Federal XM193 or Winchester are the top in affordable target ammo.


8 posted on 11/21/2008 7:05:00 PM PST by omega4179 (Obama recession ends 1-20-13)
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To: mmanager

Join the NRA and look for their local rifle club.

What is a SIG GSR? That picture looks like a 1911. I know what a SIG 226 is or i forget all the model designations.


9 posted on 11/21/2008 7:08:18 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Shooter 2.5

Gun is original.
Reciever:

CAR-A3
HBAR Elite
Cal. 223
Ser. BK0


10 posted on 11/21/2008 7:09:55 PM PST by mmanager (It was amazing to watch a 900# Moose drag a 3,000# RINO.)
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To: Kirkwood

That took a while...


11 posted on 11/21/2008 7:10:08 PM PST by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: KoRn

As I stated in my comments, I bought the SIG in the last two weeks. Haven’t taken a picture of the new baby yet.


12 posted on 11/21/2008 7:11:12 PM PST by mmanager (It was amazing to watch a 900# Moose drag a 3,000# RINO.)
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To: Frantzie

SIG GSR is a 1911 knock-off. No differnt than Kimbers, Springfield’s, Wilson etc.


13 posted on 11/21/2008 7:13:12 PM PST by mmanager (It was amazing to watch a 900# Moose drag a 3,000# RINO.)
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To: omega4179

Any particular grain?


14 posted on 11/21/2008 7:13:39 PM PST by mmanager (It was amazing to watch a 900# Moose drag a 3,000# RINO.)
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To: mmanager

What is the twist?


15 posted on 11/21/2008 7:17:37 PM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: mmanager

Generally bulk purchase Winchester or Federal ‘white box’ FMJ works for me.


16 posted on 11/21/2008 7:18:25 PM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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To: mmanager
Just about any ammo should feed through it. The question is what purpose do you want the ammo to accomplish? Target shooting? Varmint dispatching? Since I primarily handload, I always choose the bullet and then load it for best performance. Similarly, buy several brands that are factory loaded with the correct type of bullet and test for accuracy.
17 posted on 11/21/2008 7:21:19 PM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 17)
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To: mmanager
Oddly enough I just came home with these tonight:

My wife said she would divorce me if I got one. She just ended up just going to bed early.

DPMS AP4 Rifle Barrel: 16" Length w/A2 flash hider (birdcage) 4140 chrome-moly steel AP4 style contour Manganese Phosphated 6 grooves, right-hand 1x9 twist, button rifled Chamber: 5.56x45mm Method of Operation: Gas operated rotating bolt Bolt & Carrier: 8620 steel bolt carrier, heat treated and plated per Mil Spec Phosphated steel bolt, heat treated and plated per Mil Spec Sights: A2 front sight Assembly Weight: Empty - 7.15 lbs. Length: Extended: 36 3/8" Collapsed: 32 1/2" Upper Receiver: A3 Style with detachable carrying handle and and rear sight adjustable for windage and elevation, Forged 7075-T6 aircraft aluminum alloy Hard coat anodized per Mil Spec and Teflon coated black Dust cover Shell deflector Round forward assist Right hand ejection Lower Receiver: Forged 7075-T6 aircraft aluminum alloy Hard coat anodized per Mil Spec and Teflon coated black Semi-auto trigger group Aluminum trigger guard Aluminum magazine release button Stock: AP4 - 6 position, telescoping fiber reinforced polymer Handguards: GlacierGuards™ Oval, Carbine length Aluminum Delta Ring Each Rifle comes with 2 - 30 round magazines, 1-Nylon Web Sling, 1-Cleaning Kit, and Hard Case

18 posted on 11/21/2008 7:21:41 PM PST by BreezyDog
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To: Tarpon

I bought a big box of Winchester white box .45 target, and the bullet nose is sort of flat. I was getting some failures to feed in my CZ 97 so I got some Sellier & Bellot (Czech) full metal jacket walking-around ammo. No probs with the 9mm Winchester though.


19 posted on 11/21/2008 7:25:31 PM PST by tumblindice (In this school of war called life...)
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To: mmanager

55 is fine. The Hbar elites are 1/9 so they can take anything.


20 posted on 11/21/2008 7:27:37 PM PST by omega4179 (Obama recession ends 1-20-13)
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To: BreezyDog

did you get this in Chantilly? I’m heading over there tomorrow morning and I’m wondering how it was?


21 posted on 11/21/2008 7:29:10 PM PST by newnhdad (The longest of journeys begins with one step.)
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To: newnhdad

Nope. I got it at The Armory in Annapolis, MD. I think the guys name was Hal. I paid too much. Oh well... can’t wait to shoot it.


22 posted on 11/21/2008 7:33:01 PM PST by BreezyDog
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To: mmanager

recommend that you feed it only .223 ammo, as marked on the barrel.

5.56 has similar exterior dimensions, but the brass itself is thicker, and works at higher pressures.

not that you couldn’t feed it 5.56 in a pinch.

my $.02 worth...


23 posted on 11/21/2008 7:35:35 PM PST by castlebrew (Gun control means hitting where you intended to!)
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To: BreezyDog

good for you.. enjoy.


24 posted on 11/21/2008 7:35:35 PM PST by newnhdad (The longest of journeys begins with one step.)
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To: mmanager

Congratulations. Pretty soon you will have more I hope. So far I have 4 complete ARs of various lengths, and two more stripped lowers to build. The bedwetting liberals would have a stroke if they saw my gun storage room. Or should I say arsenal.


25 posted on 11/21/2008 7:36:14 PM PST by TheOgre
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To: BreezyDog

Nice! Built a couple of those from kits.

should work well with 55gr and 62 gr ammo.


26 posted on 11/21/2008 7:37:25 PM PST by castlebrew (Gun control means hitting where you intended to!)
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To: BreezyDog

Tell your wife that buying a gun is a great investment.


27 posted on 11/21/2008 7:39:43 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: BreezyDog

These?

If your wife will only let you have one, I’ll be happy to take one off your hands.

:)


28 posted on 11/21/2008 7:39:50 PM PST by wastedyears (Every FReeper is on Obama's Black List. He will try to have us all "taken care of." Mark my words)
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To: mmanager

YOU PEOPLE ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOO LUCKY!

Try buying a Colt AR15 here in the Communist State of KALIFORNIA. If I am not mistaken, AR15 is classified as an Assault weapon.

Handguns are entirely a different breed as well. If it is on the list of ban handguns, nope can’t own it!


29 posted on 11/21/2008 7:40:19 PM PST by paolenz
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To: mmanager

You’re asking what feeds? THe answer is whatever ammo that doesn’t jam. Go buy some and see for yourself.

Hint: Start with .223 remington.


30 posted on 11/21/2008 7:40:27 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mmanager
For the AR your best bet is Federal XM193. If you can't find it locally you can get it online while it's still on sale at Natchez Shooters Supply
31 posted on 11/21/2008 7:47:12 PM PST by Jed Eckert
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To: BreezyDog

“DPMS AP4 Rifle Barrel: 16” Length w/A2 flash hider (birdcage) 4140 chrome-moly steel AP4 style contour Manganese Phosphated 6 grooves, right-hand 1x9 twist, button rifled Chamber: 5.56x45mm Method of Operation: Gas operated rotating bolt Bolt & Carrier: 8620 steel bolt carrier, heat treated and plated per Mil Spec Phosphated steel bolt, heat treated and plated per Mil Spec Sights: A2 front sight Assembly Weight: Empty - 7.15 lbs. Length: Extended: 36 3/8” Collapsed: 32 1/2” Upper Receiver: A3 Style with detachable carrying handle and and rear sight adjustable for windage and elevation, Forged 7075-T6 aircraft aluminum alloy Hard coat anodized per Mil Spec and Teflon coated black Dust cover Shell deflector Round forward assist Right hand ejection Lower Receiver: Forged 7075-T6 aircraft aluminum alloy Hard coat anodized per Mil Spec and Teflon coated black Semi-auto trigger group Aluminum trigger guard Aluminum magazine release button Stock: AP4 - 6 position, telescoping fiber reinforced polymer Handguards: GlacierGuards™ Oval, Carbine length Aluminum Delta Ring Each Rifle comes with 2 - 30 round magazines, 1-Nylon Web Sling, 1-Cleaning Kit, and Hard Case”

That’s a lot of technical that the wife probably doesn’t appreciate. She is going to bed early you say. My wife told me after I bought a set of headers for my car and they were setting in my office: “I hope they are not too cold for you tonight”


32 posted on 11/21/2008 7:51:08 PM PST by mmanager (It was amazing to watch a 900# Moose drag a 3,000# RINO.)
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To: ExpatGator

“What is the twist?”

1/9


33 posted on 11/21/2008 7:51:46 PM PST by mmanager (It was amazing to watch a 900# Moose drag a 3,000# RINO.)
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To: mmanager

I like Federal in my match AR for just starting out.

I do reload for it with 69 Grain Sierra MatchKings, H335 powder and Winchester Primers.

Keep away from Wolf cartridges because of the heavy lacquer coating but any reputable cartridge will work fine.

Don’t be tempted to use the military cleaning rods. They will destroy that bore. Buy a good cleaning rod from a company called Dewey. You can order it from MidwayUSA.


34 posted on 11/21/2008 7:52:22 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: castlebrew

Didn’t know that. This is one of the reasons I posted this question. I have been out of brass shooting for years.

Thanks


35 posted on 11/21/2008 7:53:36 PM PST by mmanager (It was amazing to watch a 900# Moose drag a 3,000# RINO.)
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To: TheOgre

“Congratulations. Pretty soon you will have more I hope.”

That’s all I need is more expensive hobbies!!! Thanks


36 posted on 11/21/2008 7:55:06 PM PST by mmanager (It was amazing to watch a 900# Moose drag a 3,000# RINO.)
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To: mamelukesabre

“You’re asking what feeds? THe answer is whatever ammo that doesn’t jam. Go buy some and see for yourself.

Hint: Start with .223 remington.”

Do you work at Walmart? You are a wealth of information!


37 posted on 11/21/2008 7:56:47 PM PST by mmanager (It was amazing to watch a 900# Moose drag a 3,000# RINO.)
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To: mmanager

Do you know what the twist on the barrel is? That will often times give you an idea of what weight bullet will shoot best.


38 posted on 11/21/2008 7:57:29 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: mmanager

My Colt AR 15 is my “honey” rifle. Unless you handload I would suggest using Winchester .223 or Remington. I’ve never had a problem with those.


39 posted on 11/21/2008 7:58:31 PM PST by Ammo Republic 15
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To: mmanager

Here’s a

Buy guns now,
Buy ammo now,
Eric Holder is coming to your town!!!!

BUMP!!!!!!!!!!


40 posted on 11/21/2008 7:58:42 PM PST by VOA
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To: Jed Eckert

Thanks!!


41 posted on 11/21/2008 7:58:53 PM PST by mmanager (It was amazing to watch a 900# Moose drag a 3,000# RINO.)
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To: Shooter 2.5

“I like Federal in my match AR for just starting out.

I do reload for it with 69 Grain Sierra MatchKings, H335 powder and Winchester Primers.

Keep away from Wolf cartridges because of the heavy lacquer coating but any reputable cartridge will work fine.

Don’t be tempted to use the military cleaning rods. They will destroy that bore. Buy a good cleaning rod from a company called Dewey. You can order it from MidwayUSA.”

Again, this is why I posted this here. I really appreciate your response and advise. I wouldn’t have known this....thanks again.


42 posted on 11/21/2008 8:02:06 PM PST by mmanager (It was amazing to watch a 900# Moose drag a 3,000# RINO.)
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To: mmanager

Advice? worst case scenario, you will need to bury it after telling all your neighbors and half the world you have it, get some large diameter PVC pipe, either glue both ends for a sure seal or have one end with a threaded plug, grease is real good, throw some dry ice in with it and let it displace the corrosive oxygen and then seal it up.
Get as much ammo as you can afford.

If all goes well and we don’t see a gun ban in the US then take care of it, learn how to strip it down and clean it properly and the right kind of lubricants, if you find any deals on uppers like a bigger cartridge then snag them up.

I have 2 AR 15s but my real pet is my Springfield pre-ban M1A in .308.


43 posted on 11/21/2008 8:07:25 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Aleutica, the new name of Free Alaska)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Buy a good cleaning rod from a company called Dewey. You can order it from MidwayUSA.

I second the Dewey. Use it in my AR and my Garand. It has a coated shaft, and a sliding cone-shaped piece that you line up with the front of the barrel so that you don't rub the rifling. I also agree about Wolf ammo - for emergency use only IMHO. I like Federals as well, but I have a large quantity of unbranded military ammunition for use in "emergency".

I'll have to look into the 69-grain Matchkings. I don't have .223 dies yet, but I intend to get a set. I think that it's high time that I got more acquainted with my reloading equipment.

44 posted on 11/21/2008 8:07:48 PM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: mmanager

Nope.

But I do shop there!

Anytime friend. The first one’s free.


45 posted on 11/21/2008 8:09:04 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Shooter 2.5

Shooter 2.5, thanks again I just ordered both the .45 and AR-15 cleaning kit from MidwayUSA.


46 posted on 11/21/2008 8:19:00 PM PST by mmanager (It was amazing to watch a 900# Moose drag a 3,000# RINO.)
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To: mmanager

With a 1in9” you should be able to shoot up to 69 grainers no problems.


47 posted on 11/21/2008 8:22:29 PM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: Kirkwood
Tell your wife that buying a gun is a great investment.

Better yet, tell her there was a sale. She'll understand.

48 posted on 11/21/2008 8:28:07 PM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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Don't forget about Magazines. Sorry, can't help with a good source. You could try Brownell's. I don't care for the thirty rounders. I love the twenty rounders and they seem to be more reliable.
49 posted on 11/21/2008 8:30:04 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: mmanager

Brownell’s

Out of Stock[for the good milspec mags]


50 posted on 11/21/2008 8:36:30 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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